solomon_dickerson.htm

The text below is from a webpage which was on Yahoo/Geocities for many years but now seems to have vanished. My thanks to whomever kept it up for so long.

Thanks also to Dennis Dickerson and USGenWeb for recently posting the pension claim and will of Solomon.

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Solomon Dickerson

Solomon Dickerson - Solomon stated that he had lived in the following places following his Revolutionary War service in Maryland: Berkeley County, VA (now WV); Washington Co, VA; Bourbon Co, KY; Green Co, KY (part that later became Cumberland Co); Barren Co, KY (part that later became Monroe Co). Solomon descends through the Suratt Dickerson line of Maryland. Solomon and his family resided primarily in Monroe County, KY.

Migration Path: England >Maryland; >Berkeley County, VA (now WV); >Washington Co, VA; >Bourbon Co, KY; >Green Co, KY (part that later became Cumberland Co); >Barren Co, KY (part that later became Monroe Co); >Monroe Co, KY.

We are indebted to Dolores C. Rutherford and other Dickerson researchers who have done extensive research on several Dickerson family lines, including Solomon Dickerson and his ancestors.

Ancestors of

Solomon Dickerson

1. Solomon¹ Dickerson^,,,,,,,,, , born circa 1754 in , , MD; died 1843 in , Monroe, KY; buried in Old Mulkey Meeting House Graveyard, Monroe, KY, son of 2. Surratt Dickerson and 3. Hannah Holland . He married (1) Mary (Polly) (---)^, ; (2) on 6 Feb 1840 in , Monroe, KY Sarah Jenkins .

Notes for Solomon Dickerson
Solomon stated that he had lived in the following places following his Revolutionary War service in Maryland: Berkeley County, VA (now WV); Washington Co, VA; Bourbon Co, KY; Green Co, KY (part that later became Cumberland Co) Barren Co, KY (part that later became Monroe Co). Around 1800 thee was a slow migration of people from Virginia and North Carolina, who, filled with the hope of establishing homes in a land to the west, came in groups and settled near the waters of Barren River which abounded in fish, and as surrounded by a wilderness in a natural state heavily timbered and teeming with wild game, a truly great land of natural beauty and potentialities where they could live and raise their families. Tradition does not claim these early settlers were saints but they were generally characterized by a sobriety of habit and judgment that counted that "man does not live by bread alone," and we have every reason to believe that they were God loving, God fearing ppeople, for one of the first buildings on record was the Meeting House for the United Missionary Baptist Church which was organized in 1829. These early pioneer setlers were mostly of English and Scotch descent with a sprinkling of Irish, and it has been said, which statement we neither confirm nor contradict, that the purest strains of Anglo-Saxon blood in the United States flows in the veins of the people from Barren River through the territory to the north of Lexington, Kentucky.

LAST WILL AND TESTAMENT OF SOLOMON DICKERSON, May 6, 1842. Monroe County, KY
    Know all men by these presents that I Solomon Dickerson of Monroe County Kentucky being in reasonable health, and of sound mind and disposing memory do make this my last will and testament hereby revoking all former wills by him made. And I of dispose of my property in the following manner,
    first I wish all my just debts paid,
    secondly its is my will and desire that at my death my Negro Man named Moses shall be free, and that my Executor hereafter named shall be and he is hereby instructed and directed to use if <necessary> any money or property belonging to my Estate for the purpose of <lusosing> to the said Moses his freedom. And further that he have allowed to him a sufficient quantity of Provision for One year, and it is also my will at my death, my negro woman named Lucy be free and at liberty to live where she may think proper & also be furnished with provision as above named for Moses if necessary.
    I give and bequeath to my son John R Dickerson all my land that I may own at my death, by his paying to Cephas Dickerson one saddle worth Eighteen dollars, and wheras my son Henry Dickerson died indetted to me about the sum of Two hundred dollars, due by note which is all I desire giving his heirs.
    And whereas my wife Sarah Dickerson and myself previous to our marriage entered into a Marriage Contract which I wish to be complied with so far as that she have all the property she brought with her & all that she makes whilest she lives with me and I wish all my property notes and chattels of every sort not divise to be sold and that the money equally divided between my wife Sarah Dickerson, so that she have one Sixth proceed of sale with Heirs of my son, James Dickerson & the Children of my daughter Elender McMurtry deceased & the Children of my daughter Elazabeth Kays (Hays) deceased & the heirs of my son Cephas Dickerson deceased & my son John R Dickerson.
    And lastly I do hereby constitute and appoint Radford Maxey my executor to see that this my will be executed according to its true intent & meaning. In testimony where of I have hear unto set my hand & seal this 6th day of May 1842.
                    Solomon <x his mark> Dickerson <seal>

Children of Solomon Dickerson and Mary (Polly) (---) were as follows:

i Cephas Dickerson^,, , born <1792> in , Of Barren, KY; died 1825. He married 5 Aug 1812 Mary McPherson.

ii Henry Dickerson^,,, . Died before 1843. He married 2 Oct 1810 Amy Burris.

iii John R. Dickerson^, , died bef 1855. He married 24 Apr 1804 Polly Grider.

iv James Dickerson^,,,, . He married 30 Jan 1816 Harriet Howard.

v Elender Dickerson. Died before 1843. She married McMurtry.

vi Elizabeth Dickerson. Died before 1843. She married Hays.

Generation 2

2. Surratt² Dickerson , born 1725 in , Frederick, MD; died bef 1800 in , Montgomery, MD, son of 4. Henry Dickerson and 5. Susanna Sarratt . He married in 1745 3. Hannah Holland , born 1725 in , Frederick, MD, daughter of 6. William Holland and 7. Susan (---) .

Children of Surratt Dickerson and Hannah Holland were as follows:

i John¹ Dickerson , born <1744> in , Montgomery, MD; died abt 1794.

ii Zadock¹ Dickerson , born <1746> in , Montgomery, MD.

iii Elizabeth¹ Dickerson , born <1748> in , Montgomery, MD; died Feb 1797.

iv Surratt¹ Dickerson , born abt 1750 in , Montgomery, MD.

v Nathan¹ Dickerson , born <1752> in , Montgomery, MD.

vi Zadoc¹ Dickerson , born <1753> in <, Montgomery, MD>.

1 vii Solomon¹ Dickerson^,,,,,,,,, , born circa 1754 in , , MD; died 1843 in , Monroe, KY; buried in Old Mulkey Meeting House Graveyard, Monroe, KY.

Generation 3

4. Henry³ Dickerson , born 1685 in , Prince George's, MD; died 1785 in , Prince George's, MD, son of 8. Thomas Dickerson and 9. Isabell/Elizabeth (---) . He married in 1720 in Piscataway, Prince George's, MD 5. Susanna Sarratt , born 1685 in , Prince George's, MD; died 1734 in , , MD, daughter of 10. Joseph Sarratt and 11. Kathrine (---) .

Children of Henry Dickerson and Susanna Sarratt were as follows:

i John² Dickerson , born 11 Feb 1721 in , Frederick, MD; died 1785 in Morris Twp, Washington, PA.

ii Suratt² Dickerson , born <1723> in , Frederick, MD.

iii Thomas² Dickerson , born 1723 in , Frederick, MD.

2 iv Surratt² Dickerson , born 1725 in , Frederick, MD; died bef 1800 in , Montgomery, MD.

6. William³ Holland He married 7. Susan (---) .

Children of William Holland and Susan (---) were as follows:

3 i Hannah² Holland , born 1725 in , Frederick, MD.

Generation 4

8. Thomas⁴ Dickerson , born 1643 in , Montgomery, MD; died 1725 in , Prince George's, MD, son of 12. William Dickerson . He married in 1674 in , Montgomery, MD 9. Isabell/Elizabeth (---) , born 1645 in <, Charles, MD>.

Children of Thomas Dickerson and Isabell/Elizabeth (---) were as follows:

i John³ Dickerson , born 1675 in , Charles, MD.

4 ii Henry³ Dickerson , born 1685 in , Prince George's, MD; died 1785 in , Prince George's, MD.

iii Joshua³ Dickerson , born <1689> in <, Prince George's, MD>.

iv Thomas³ Dickerson , born 1689 in , Prince George's, MD; died 1736.

v Mary³ Dickerson , born 1690 in , Prince George's, MD.

vi Daniel³ Dickerson , born <1691> in <, Prince George's, MD>.

vii Elizabeth³ Dickerson , born 1692 in , Prince George's, MD.

viii Peter³ Dickerson , born <1693> in <, Prince George's, MD>.

10. Joseph⁴ Sarratt He married 11. Kathrine (---) .

Children of Joseph Sarratt and Kathrine (---) were as follows:

5 i Susanna³ Sarratt , born 1685 in , Prince George's, MD; died 1734 in , , MD.

Generation 5

12. William⁵ Dickerson , born 1623 in , , England, son of 13. William Dickerson . He married unknown.

Children of William Dickerson were as follows:

8 i Thomas⁴ Dickerson , born 1643 in , Montgomery, MD; died 1725 in , Prince George's, MD.

ii Joshua⁴ Dickerson , born 1745 in , , MD.

Generation 6

13. William⁶ Dickerson , born 1596 in , , England He married unknown.

Children of William Dickerson were as follows:

12 i William⁵ Dickerson , born 1623 in , , England.

ii Peter⁵ Dickerson , born 1625 in , , England.

SOURCES

1 1820 Monroe Co., KY Census. 1820 MONROE COUNTY KY CENSUS287 Dickerson James655 Dickerson Henry682 Dickerson Cephirs693 Dickerson SolomonSolomon Dickerson (Pikesville, now Flippin)000001-001011 male over 451 female 16-261 female over 45

2 Dolores C. Rutherford. Dickerson, Solomon - Family History Library Film Nos. 1597889 and 1597890.. Film 1597889, Frames 1175-1226.

3 Munford - Crenshaw Cemetery - Dedicated to the perpetual care of the DAR, Edmund Rogers chapter.

4 The Kentucky Land Grants. Grantee: Dickerson, SolomonAcres: 400Book 4Page 234Date Survey: 7-10-1804County: BarrenWatercourse: E Fk. Big Barren RiverGrantee: Dickerson, SolomonAcres: 50Book FPage 179Date Survey: 1-10-1819County: BarrenWatercourse: Big Barren R.

5 Revolutionary War Pension Application - Solomon Dickerson. SOLOMON DICKERSON MONROE COUNTY PRIVATE MARYLAND LINE $20.00 ANNUAL ALLOWANCE $60.00 AMOUNT RECEIVED APRIL 12, 1833 PENSION STARTED AGE 80 Solomon said that he lived in the following places after the war: Berkeley County, VA (now WV), Washington County, VA, Bourbon County, KY (where he had a brother), Green County, KY (pt. that later became Cumberland County), Barren County, KY (pt. that later became Monroe County, KY).

6 1830 Monroe Co., KY Census. 626 Dicken Isham171 Dickerson James58 Dickerson Polly Polly Dickerson is listed in this Census; Solomon is not - has he died?

7 1810 Barren Co., KY Census. 330 Dickinson Benj331 Dickinson Henry332 Dickinson John333 Dickinson Solomon334 Dickinson Thos

8 Barren County, KY - Wills. Name: William JohnsonDate Written: 29 October 1818Date Probated: December Court 1818Wife: Isbell JohnsonLawful children: John Jefferson Johnson, Hays Johnson, Hariot Johnson and Eveline JohnsonWitnesses: John R. Dickinson and Solomon DickersonSource: Barren Co Will Book 2, p. 8.Name: Thomas HaysWritten: 9 March 1807Probated: December Court 1807Wife: Mary HaysSon: John HaysSon: Zakaniah HaysSon: Thomas HaysSon: Allen HaysSon: William HaysRebeccah Howard, wife of ChristopherAnny High, wife of Mark HighPatsy White, wife of James WhteGranddaughter: Clemmontony [sic] WhiteGranddaughter: Betsy HowardNote: Later in will he indicates only 4 lawful childen, no relationship shown on other legatees.Slave: One girl unnamedWitnesses: James Morriss, Richard Morriss, Solomon DickersonSource: Barren Co Will Book 1, p. 64Name: Christopher GriderWritten: 27 August 1806Probated: Nov Court 1806Wife: Nelly GriderDaughter: Nancy GriderDaughter: Susanna GriderDaughter: Ruth GriderDaughter: Sally GriderDaughter: Polly GriderOther names mentioned: Barne Flin, Isaac FiskExecutrix: Wife NellyWitnesses: Solomon Dickerson, Daniel Gray/Bray, David HeadySource: Barren Co Will Book 1, p. 58Name: John SummersWritten: 11 March 1806Probated: April Court 1806Wife: Isabel SummersSon: John SummersDaughter: Isabel BushongSon: Samuel Summers(These above shown as legally begotten)Daughter: Mary ClarkSon: William SummersOther names: James YoungWitnesses: Solomon Dickerson, Julius MarshallSource: Barren Co KY Will Book 1, p. 57.Name: William JohnsonDate Written: 29 October 1818Date Probated: December Court 1818Wife: Isbell JohnsonLawful children: John Jefferson Johnson, Hays Johnson, Hariot Johnson and Eveline JohnsonWitnesses: John R. Dickinson and Solomon DickersonSource: Barren Co Will Book 2, p. 8.Name: Christopher GriderWritten: 27 August 1806Probated: Nov Court 1806Wife: Nelly GriderDaughter: Nancy GriderDaughter: Susanna GriderDaughter: Ruth GriderDaughter: Sally GriderDaughter: Polly GriderOther names mentioned: Barne Flin, Isaac FiskExecutrix: Wife NellyWitnesses: Solomon Dickerson, Daniel Gray/Bray, David HeadySource: Barren Co Will Book 1, p. 58Name: John SummersWritten: 11 March 1806Probated: April Court 1806Wife: Isabel SummersSon: John SummersDaughter: Isabel BushongSon: Samuel Summers(These above shown as legally begotten)Daughter: Mary ClarkSon: William SummersOther names: James YoungWitnesses: Solomon Dickerson, Julius MarshallSource: Barren Co KY Will Book 1, p. 57.

9 1830 Monroe Co., KY Tax Records. DICKERSON Henry 112 DICKERSON James 100 DICKERSON John R. 100 DICKENSON Polly 000 DICKENSON Solomon 100

10 Kentucky - Old Kentucky Surveys. These fell in what is now Monroe Co as well as Barren Co. East Fork of Big Barren.1804 Solomon DICKERSON

11 Monroe Co., KY - Old Muley Church Membership. Date Entered Date LeftMay 1804 Dickerson, Polly, June 1811June 1812 Dickerson, ThomasNo date Dickerson, John, July 1828No date Dickerson, Mrs John, July 1828Also listed as Mill Creek Church

12 1830 Monroe Co., KY Tax Records. DICKERSON Henry 112 DICKERSON James 100 DICKERSON John R. 100 DICKENSON Polly 000 DICKENSON Solomon 100

13 The Kentucky Land Grants. Grantee: Dickerson, CephasAcres: 4Book: HPage 208Date Survey: 11-10-1820County: MonroeWatercourse: Big Barren R.

14 1820 Monroe Co., KY Census. p. 13. 1820 Monroe County Census, Pikesville (now Flippin)Cephius Dickerson300010-200103 males 0-101 male 26-452 females 0-101 female 26-45

15 Reneau. Barren Co., KY Marriage Records. Dickerson, Cephas to Mary McPherson, Aug 5, 1812. Sur: George M. McPherson, consent father Jehu McPherson, Wit. James Dickerson.

16 The Kentucky Land Grants. Grantee: Dickerson, HenryAcres: 46Book HPage 333Date Survey: 8-10-1821County: MonroeWatercourse: Mill Cr.Grantee: Dickerson, HenryAcres: 97Book ZPage 31Date Survey: 11-4-1830County: MonroeWatercourse: E Fk. Big Barren R.

17 1820 Monroe Co., KY Census. p. 12. 1820 Monroe County Census, TompkinsvilleHenry Dickerson220610-300102 males 0-102 males 10-166 males 16-261 male 26-453 females 0-101 female 26-45

18 Reneau. Barren Co., KY Marriage Records. Dickerson, Henry to Anny Burris, Sept 29, 1810. Sur: James McMurtey. Md. Oct 2, 1810 by Lewis Byram.

19 1830 Monroe Co., KY Tax Records. DICKERSON Henry 112 DICKERSON James 100 DICKERSON John R. 100 DICKENSON Polly 000 DICKENSON Solomon 100

20 Reneau. Barren Co., KY Marriage Records. Dickerson, John to Phebe Maguire, Sept 21, 1818. Sur: Daniel Maguire. Md. Oct 1, 1818 by Zacheus Quisenberry.

21 1830 Monroe Co., KY Tax Records. DICKERSON Henry 112 DICKERSON James 100 DICKERSON John R. 100 DICKENSON Polly 000 DICKENSON Solomon 100

22 The Kentucky Land Grants. Grantee: Dickinson, JamesAcres: 100Book F-2Page 31Date Survey: 2-15-1832County: MonroeWatercourse: E Fk. Big Barren R.

23 1820 Monroe Co., KY Census. Page 6. 1820 Monroe County CensusJames Dickerson000010-301001 male 26-453 females 0-101 female 16-26

24 Reneau. Barren Co., KY Marriage Records. Dickeson, James to Harriet Howard, Jan. 30, 1816. Sur: Cephas Dickerson, consent of father from Christopher Howard. Wit: John Mulkey, Cephas Dickerson.

25 1830 Monroe Co., KY Census. 171 Dickerson James 58 Dickerson Polly

26 1830 Monroe Co., KY Tax Records. DICKERSON Henry 112 DICKERSON James 100 DICKERSON John R. 100 DICKENSON Polly 000 DICKENSON Solomon 100

27 1810 Barren Co., KY Census. 1810 Barren Co., KY Census330 Dickinson Benj331 Dickinson Henry332 Dickinson John333 Dickinson Solomon334 Dickinson Thos Thomas Dickerson is shown with Solomon Dickerson - are they son and father??

28 Barren Co., KY Deed Books. BARREN CO., KY DEED BOOKSFrom: Tyre HarrisTo: Ann HarrisDate: 15 May 1807Type: Bill of sale for stock and cattle.Witnesses: Tho. Dickinson, Benj. Dickinson, John Harris.Barren Co KY Deed Book B, p. 154.From: Tho. Dickinson, Power of Attorney for Ann HarrisTo: Henry CrutcherDate: 20 June 1807Lots 22 and 23 in Glasgow.Barren Co Deed Book B, p. 149From: Glasgow Trustees: Henry Miller, Tho. Dickinson and Daniel CulpTo: Ann HarrisType: Lots 21, 22, 23, and 24 in GlasgowDate: Not datedSource: Barren Co KY Deed Book B, p. 146.From: Wm. R. McGary of Henderson CoTo: Richard DavidsonDate: 15 Oct 1806Type: Land on Rose? Creek, military entryWitnesses: Thomas Dickinson, Wm Higgins, Cheadel HarrisNames Cited: Wm BallardBarren Co KY Deed Book B, p. 127From: William Roberts of Shelby Co KYTo: Lawrence GillockType: Land on Skaggs CreekNames Mentioned: Rice Bullock, Wm. Armstead.Witnesses: John Gorin, Tho. Dickinson, Abner Bourne, Simeon Buford.Source: Barren Co KY Deed Book B, p. 55From: Samuel WoodsonTo: Asa EllisDate: 17 Mar 1807Type: Bill of sale of negro boyWitnesses: Tho Dickinson, Geo W. FletcherSource: Barren Co Deed Book B, p. 137.Thomas Dickin(er)son is shown as a witness to several land transactions in 1807.

29 1820 Monroe Co., KY Census. 1820 MONROE COUNTY KY CENSUS287 Dickerson James655 Dickerson Henry682 Dickerson Cephirs693 Dickerson SolomonSolomon Dickerson (Pikesville, now Flippin)000001-001011 male over 451 female 16-261 female over 45

30 Dolores C. Rutherford. Dickerson, Solomon - Family History Library Film Nos. 1597889 and 1597890.. Film 1597889, Frames 1175-1226.

31 Munford - Crenshaw Cemetery - Dedicated to the perpetual care of the DAR, Edmund Rogers chapter.

32 The Kentucky Land Grants. Grantee: Dickerson, SolomonAcres: 400Book 4Page 234Date Survey: 7-10-1804County: BarrenWatercourse: E Fk. Big Barren RiverGrantee: Dickerson, SolomonAcres: 50Book FPage 179Date Survey: 1-10-1819County: BarrenWatercourse: Big Barren R.

33 Revolutionary War Pension Application - Solomon Dickerson. SOLOMON DICKERSON MONROE COUNTY PRIVATE MARYLAND LINE $20.00 ANNUAL ALLOWANCE $60.00 AMOUNT RECEIVED APRIL 12, 1833 PENSION STARTED AGE 80 Solomon said that he lived in the following places after the war: Berkeley County, VA (now WV), Washington County, VA, Bourbon County, KY (where he had a brother), Green County, KY (pt. that later became Cumberland County), Barren County, KY (pt. that later became Monroe County, KY).

34 1830 Monroe Co., KY Census. 626 Dicken Isham171 Dickerson James58 Dickerson Polly Polly Dickerson is listed in this Census; Solomon is not - has he died?

35 1810 Barren Co., KY Census. 330 Dickinson Benj331 Dickinson Henry332 Dickinson John333 Dickinson Solomon334 Dickinson Thos

36 Barren County, KY - Wills. Name: William JohnsonDate Written: 29 October 1818Date Probated: December Court 1818Wife: Isbell JohnsonLawful children: John Jefferson Johnson, Hays Johnson, Hariot Johnson and Eveline JohnsonWitnesses: John R. Dickinson and Solomon DickersonSource: Barren Co Will Book 2, p. 8.Name: Thomas HaysWritten: 9 March 1807Probated: December Court 1807Wife: Mary HaysSon: John HaysSon: Zakaniah HaysSon: Thomas HaysSon: Allen HaysSon: William HaysRebeccah Howard, wife of ChristopherAnny High, wife of Mark HighPatsy White, wife of James WhteGranddaughter: Clemmontony [sic] WhiteGranddaughter: Betsy HowardNote: Later in will he indicates only 4 lawful childen, no relationship shown on other legatees.Slave: One girl unnamedWitnesses: James Morriss, Richard Morriss, Solomon DickersonSource: Barren Co Will Book 1, p. 64Name: Christopher GriderWritten: 27 August 1806Probated: Nov Court 1806Wife: Nelly GriderDaughter: Nancy GriderDaughter: Susanna GriderDaughter: Ruth GriderDaughter: Sally GriderDaughter: Polly GriderOther names mentioned: Barne Flin, Isaac FiskExecutrix: Wife NellyWitnesses: Solomon Dickerson, Daniel Gray/Bray, David HeadySource: Barren Co Will Book 1, p. 58Name: John SummersWritten: 11 March 1806Probated: April Court 1806Wife: Isabel SummersSon: John SummersDaughter: Isabel BushongSon: Samuel Summers(These above shown as legally begotten)Daughter: Mary ClarkSon: William SummersOther names: James YoungWitnesses: Solomon Dickerson, Julius MarshallSource: Barren Co KY Will Book 1, p. 57.Name: William JohnsonDate Written: 29 October 1818Date Probated: December Court 1818Wife: Isbell JohnsonLawful children: John Jefferson Johnson, Hays Johnson, Hariot Johnson and Eveline JohnsonWitnesses: John R. Dickinson and Solomon DickersonSource: Barren Co Will Book 2, p. 8.Name: Christopher GriderWritten: 27 August 1806Probated: Nov Court 1806Wife: Nelly GriderDaughter: Nancy GriderDaughter: Susanna GriderDaughter: Ruth GriderDaughter: Sally GriderDaughter: Polly GriderOther names mentioned: Barne Flin, Isaac FiskExecutrix: Wife NellyWitnesses: Solomon Dickerson, Daniel Gray/Bray, David HeadySource: Barren Co Will Book 1, p. 58Name: John SummersWritten: 11 March 1806Probated: April Court 1806Wife: Isabel SummersSon: John SummersDaughter: Isabel BushongSon: Samuel Summers(These above shown as legally begotten)Daughter: Mary ClarkSon: William SummersOther names: James YoungWitnesses: Solomon Dickerson, Julius MarshallSource: Barren Co KY Will Book 1, p. 57.

37 1830 Monroe Co., KY Tax Records. DICKERSON Henry 112 DICKERSON James 100 DICKERSON John R. 100 DICKENSON Polly 000 DICKENSON Solomon 100

38 Kentucky - Old Kentucky Surveys. These fell in what is now Monroe Co as well as Barren Co. East Fork of Big Barren.1804 Solomon DICKERSON

39 Dolores C. Rutherford. Dickerson, Solomon - Family History Library Film Nos. 1597889 and 1597890..

40 Dolores C. Rutherford. Dickerson, Solomon - Family History Library Film Nos. 1597889 and 1597890..